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How to Get Tee Times at Bethpage Black Golf Course, Site of the 2002 and 2009 US Opens

by Craig Better

Jun12011

Bethpage Black

Follow our advice below to score coveted Bethpage Black tee times (18th hole pictured).

[Updated each season from the original, 2008 post]

Several readers have asked what we recommend in terms of getting tee times at Long Island, New York’s Bethpage Black golf course.

As you probably know, the U.S. Open was held at Bethpage Black in 2002 and most recently in 2009, so it’s more popular than ever. And, for out-of-staters, it’s that much tougher to get on because New York residents can make tee times up to seven days in advance; for everyone else, it’s only two days. Keep in mind, too, that the course is closed on Mondays unless it’s a holiday.

Yes, you read that correctly: the course is open on Monday holidays.

As for how to get on, you have a few options: 1) use Bethpage Black’s tee time reservation system, 2) go the infamous route of trying to walk-on at the crack of dawn, which often involves camping out in your car, or 3) hire a little-known company that claims to be able to get you a tee time on your preferred day of play. (All three are methods are covered in detail in our free guide, below.)

Let’s briefly discuss the first option:

Anyone (New York residents, non-residents, Canadians) can use use Bethpage Black’s tee time reservation system, but you first must become a registered user.

To register, you have to fax a copy of your driver’s license AND write or type out all of the information that appears on the front of it, plus your telephone number (an email address would help, too), in case the image is unreadable via the fax.

The fax number is: 516-753-0413.

For New York residents, the license/ID number doubles as the reservation number.

It used to be that, if you were not a New York resident, you were also encouraged to include your Social Security number (which then became your reservation system account number) to expedite processing.

Those days are over for obvious reasons. Now, you’ll be assigned a number.

Once that happens, you can begin using the tee time reservation system.

New York State residents can reserve seven days before the intended day of play. For non-residents, it’s two days.

[This advanced booking advantage isn't the only one New York residents have. They pay the $5 reservation fee, too, but their greens fee is $65/75 (weekday/weekend) vs. $130/$150 for non-residents.]

There is always some confusion over what, for example, “two days before” means. Do you count the day you want to play? Is it exactly 48 hours?

Also, “What if our group is a mix of New York residents and non-residents?” And, “How long does it take before I’m officially “in” the system?

Not to worry, all this, a price list for everything else — plus a great tip on when you can often score available tee times — is covered in the below guide.

Your second option for getting on Bethpage Black, as mentioned above, is to try and walk on, as all of the first hour’s tee times, and one slot per hour thereafter, are made available on a first-come, first-served basis.

The entire walk-on procedure — including exactly where you and/or your car need to be and when — and a ton of “frequently asked questions” are answered and discussed in detail in the guide.

Trust me, there’s a right way and a wrong way to attempt this, and the Bethpage staff won’t hesitate to give your slots away if you mess up.

Basically, you need to arrive at Bethpage the day before you want to play. Each night, a Bethpage official hands out wrist bands, which confirms the order for the next morning’s “bakery ticket” dispersement.

It is these tickets that allow you to purchase your round of golf.

Of course, there’s a lot more to it than that. For instance…

  • What’s the best time to arrive the day before and where exactly do I go?
  • What time are the wrist bands handed out?
  • What time are the “bakery tickets” handed out in the morning?
  • Does my entire group need to be together at all times?
  • What are my chances of getting a tee time if I’m the fifth car in line? The 10th? The 20th?

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{ 261 comments… read them below or add one }

1 Greg P. March 25, 2008 at 11:17 am

Thanks for the details. It’s difficult to find information on the course! Any idea what information must you present when actually showing up for the tee time? Would it be possible to have a NY resident (non golfer) make the tee time and then not show up as part of the foursome?

2 Craig B. March 31, 2008 at 4:45 pm

The person who makes the reservation must show up with a valid driver’s license an hour before the tee time or the Bethpage folks will give ALL FOUR slots away to the walk-ups. Exceptions are sometimes made in the case of emergencies, but I wouldn’t advise trying to game the system — as you can imagine, these people have seen and heard it all. Good luck!

3 Troy D. May 18, 2008 at 6:58 pm

On option #2 (camp out / walk on) any idea what time people start showing up in the parking lot on the weekends to play the next day?

4 Craig B. May 20, 2008 at 11:20 am

In summer, when it’s really crazy out there, it can be as early as the afternoon before. Some people make a tailgating experience out of it. You park in numbered parking spaces near the tennis bubble. If you have a foursome, only one person needs to stay with the car initially, but when they begin handing out the tickets the next morning, the whole group must be present.

5 Tom P. July 2, 2008 at 12:31 pm

What are the chances of two golfers showing up to park on a Thursday evening about 10pm wanting to play on Friday?

6 Tom P. July 2, 2008 at 12:36 pm

Does it pay for an out of state golfer to even attempt the tee time reservation system? We want to play on Friday, July 18th so I assume weekdays are at least a little better than weekends………thanks for any help.

7 Craig B. July 2, 2008 at 1:16 pm

Response to question 1: 10 pm seems a bit late. The wrist bands (which determine the next day’s ticket dispersement) are handed out at around 6:45 pm. Most people arrive well before then. Response to question 2: Yes, it pays. If you can secure a reservation, you have a guaranteed tee time. True, weekdays are less busy than weekends, but there’s more chance involved taking the walk-on route. Hope this helps.

8 K. B. July 16, 2008 at 12:54 pm

To make a reservation 7 days in advance, does everyone in the foursome need to be an NY resident? Or can one NY resident make a foursome reservation that includes players from out of state?

9 Shawn S. July 17, 2008 at 5:32 pm

K B, As long as the party making the reservation is, in fact, a New York resident and has their driver’s license on file with the park, then they can make the reservation seven days in advance, as usual. Even if their guests are from out of state.

10 Tom P. July 20, 2008 at 10:38 pm

We did get a two day advance tee time (11:03) as an out of state golfer. The key for us was a very hot weekend in NYC which I’m certain kept some of the locals away, a tip to consider if you happen to be in town during sultry weather. When we checked in an hour early, there were even tee times still available for noon and later. The pro shop told us there were several cancellations. Unless you’re in great shape, either get a caddy or rent ($5) a pull cart. Also remember to get a couple Gatorades at 6 and 12 as #9 is nowhere near the clubhouse. A great time but more of a workout than I expected, although it was 97 degrees. One final tip; if you miss the fairways, the bunkers are a much better option than the rough (hay) since you just can’t advance the ball much from there, assuming you even find it. Tom P.

11 D. K. August 6, 2008 at 2:08 pm

Question: I’m a NY resident and want to play Black. Do you know what time I can start calling for a Saturday a.m. tee-time? Is it the previous Saturday at 7 p.m.? That Saturday at 5 a.m. (they say that’s when the pro shop opens)? Thanks for the help. Also, if you’re not going to get on Black, what is the next best one to play? Many thanks

12 Shawn S. August 6, 2008 at 2:20 pm

DK, We mention in the tip above that call-in times do, in fact, start at 7 p.m. seven days before you’d like to make a reservation if you’re a New York resident. So get on the line at 7 that Saturday evening. If the Black isn’t available, we’ve always preferred the Red course as the first alternative.

13 Arup M. August 29, 2008 at 8:14 am

1. After I send in the registration info, is there any confirmation that I’m “in” the system? or do I call to find out? 2. Are the odds of getting on good for a single golfer calling the night before? 3. I play to an index of 12, will I be surrounded by single digits and feel out of place? I understand my score may not be great, but I can keep pace just fine. appreciate any feedback. Thanks

14 Craig B. August 29, 2008 at 9:23 am

1. I wouldn’t wait around for a confirmation. Rather, just call the reservation line a couple days after you apply to see if your account number is recognized. 2. Yes, in most tight tee-time situations, it’s always easier for a single to squeeze in at the last minute than larger sized groups. 3. You will absolutely NOT feel out of place with a 12 handicap. In fact, you might be the best player in your group! Despite the famous sign advising that only highly skilled players attempt Bethpage Black, the reality is that everyone plays it.

15 Arup M. September 12, 2008 at 10:30 pm

Based on all the helpful advice, I was able to get on as an out-of-towner, although it was easier as a single. Calling the night before can get you some last minute cancellation spots. A few additional tips. 1)Don’t use your real social security #, I simply changed a few of my digits for privacy. 2) Bring a distance measuring device. While all sprinkler heads are marked, you sometimes have to walk around to find one. There are no stakes. 3)make sure you take water. There are a few fountains, but don’t rely on them. No cart girls but you do hit the halfway at #6/12. You DO NOT want to run out of water for the home stretch of 15-17, although the beer tastes great in the very nice wood paneled bar if you suffered.4)If you cannot drive the ball 260-270 onto narrow fairways, make sure you warm up your hybrid/long iron game at the practice range and hope your short game bails you out. Otherwise you can be staring at a double-bogey on a lot of holes.5) DO NOT be late, they are not sympathetic. You must sign in 1 hour before tee time, expect line-ups plus NYC traffic. A truly majestic place. Look forward to reminiscing when I watch the 09 Open.

16 Caldwell C. September 18, 2008 at 8:54 am

We are planning a day trip to The Black from Virginia (about a 5 hour drive). We were planning on arriving the night before. What happens if you arrive after the 6:45 time when they hand out the numbers? If we arrive at 10:00 and camp out on Wednesday night to play on a Thursday in October, will we be ok? Thanks for you response.

17 Craig B. September 18, 2008 at 12:04 pm

If you completely miss the wrist band dispersal that evening, what you’re effectively trying to do is get a same-day, walk-on tee time the following morning…at Bethpage Black…as an out-of-state resident. To use a golf phrase: that’s not a high percentage shot. So why risk it? Just leave a few hours earlier. You should try to arrive well before 6:45 anyway. As we say above, “Walk-on hopefuls typically arrive at Bethpage in the afternoon or early evening…”

18 Steve B. September 19, 2008 at 5:22 pm

I will be staying in Manhattan and hoping to get out to Bethpage Black as a single mid week. What is the best mode of transportation? Thanks for you response.

19 Linda E. October 8, 2008 at 3:06 pm

We have our tickets to the 2009 Open. Where is the public parking to be? We have also booked rooms in Rockville Center. Is that OK for a train to Bethpage of would Hickville be better? Or, is that OK to get to a public parking then bus it? Thanks Linda

20 Craig B. October 8, 2008 at 4:05 pm

Not sure where the public parking will be. Best to check with the organizers, the USGA (usga.org). If you stay in Rockville Center, you’d have to backtrack a bit by train before heading to Bethpage — it might take you an hour and 25 minutes as opposed to staying in Hicksville, which is only 25 minutes by train.

21 Caldwell C. October 9, 2008 at 8:18 pm

One more question as I prepare for my trip to Bethpage next week. Is it pretty obvious where the parking lot is where the wristbands are dispersed? What time would you recomend parking on a Tuesday night after Columbus Day? We are driving up from DC area on Monday night. Which course would you recomend playing the day before we camp out to play the back? The RED is getting aerated on Tuesday, so that is out. Thanks.

22 Craig B. October 10, 2008 at 9:48 am

At the end of the main entrance road, there’s a cul-de-sac bag drop; the attendants will direct you to the proper parking area. If it were me, I’d try to be parked no later than 2-4 pm. If the Red course is closed, the next best option is the Blue. Good luck!

23 Kevin C. October 11, 2008 at 10:21 am

Is camping in a tent by your car really an option for those out-of-towners parking overnight, or is that considered “improper use of the grounds”? Also, I have relatives who live near Stony Brook. Does it make sense to get the wrist bands and then metro (since we have to leave our car) to Stony Brook for a good night sleep? Would we have to return too early for metro the next day?

24 Craig B. October 12, 2008 at 8:29 pm

Not sure what the “official” rule is, but we’ve definitely known people who have slept in tents and/or sleeping bags. The Stoney Brook idea might work. Check the train schedule at: http://www.mta.info (click on Long Island Rail Road) to determine whether the timetables work out.

25 Steven M. October 27, 2008 at 9:20 am

Just got back from a trip to the New York/Long Island area. Drove to the parking lot around 10 PM on Sunday night October 12th (day before Columbus Day). Black was going to be open on the Monday because of the holiday. I was the 6th car in line and wristbands were not given out until 6 AM the next morning along with the numbered ticket to enter the pro shop. Some of the people ahead of me in the car line were not playing black but were playing Red. I ended up (as a single) in the 3rd tee time (8:07). First tee time was 7:54. Great time, played in 4:45, very difficult and brutal course, sand everywhere. Would do it again in a heartbeat.

26 Steve D. November 28, 2008 at 4:53 pm

As you read these comments, most readers will think, “what a headache, why would anyone deal with this to play a round?”. On behalf of everyone who has played The Black, let me make this clear- it’s totally worth it. We played, most recently, as out-of-staters the first week of Nov.2008. Conditions were excellent, considering everything. The fairways and rough were already the U.S.Open set up for 2009. The course is visually amazing, is kept in very good condition for a muni, and is a real test of golf. The property is enormous. Good luck, and may you break 90.

27 Pete G. January 15, 2009 at 7:55 am

I just read through all these comments and as someone who lives 5 minutes from and grew up on these courses, you should enjoy it. Just as information, Stony Brook is really far from Bethpage. As noted Hicksville( I know a funny name for NY) is the absolute best place to get train service to the Open, I did it in 02. Rockville Centre is a nice area and the hotels/motel are decent but you do have to backtrack to Jamaica on the babylon line to pick up the mainline. Jones beach was the general parking area in ’02 and is at least 30 minutes away. USGA does an outstanding job of operating shuttle buses but it’s still far. try buying parking passes on Ebay for SUNY Farmingdale. Enjoy

28 Jeff J. January 27, 2009 at 5:27 am

4 years ago while on an RV trip, we tried to get on via the “walk-on” lot. Security didn’t like our RV one bit, but with a little bribery, we were allowed to stay. Anybody know what the official policy is today?

29 William F. February 5, 2009 at 12:01 am

Let me advise you that the best way to play this course is find someone who’s a resident to get you on. I played with my brothers friends who are residents. All my other attempts to get on failed. I played middle of june last year and it was the best and worst time i ever had. Playing that course was amazing but the pain and numbness in my legs the next day was painful. Don’t rent the push cart get a caddy or get a good push cart that has 3 wheels. The rentals are old and a little beat up and walking up and down hills all day becomes very tiering especially lugging around your clubs in the summer. Also it was previously mentioned bring plenty of water or gatorade. And last but not least practice at the driving range and bring extra golf ball i don’t care what your handicap is you will loose some balls. After playing i realized that my score wasn’t as important as the amount of balls i had left in my bag. But it is truely a great course intimidating but great. I hope my information was useful and i hope you enjoy playing the dreaded black course.

30 Steven C. February 6, 2009 at 9:49 am

I am just wondering as a single what are the chances of showing up mid week and playing the black that day, I would be coming from Toronto and would rather see if I can walk on rather than camping out, played Pebble Beach last year, hoping to add another Open venue to my game this year.

31 Craig B. February 9, 2009 at 10:05 am

I’d guess that your chances aren’t great if you’re trying to play before this year’s US Open as the course will only be open for half days through May. After the event, they’ll go back to full days, but you can be sure there’s going to be a tremendous spike in demand. The general rule of thumb with Bethpage Black is, the earlier you get there, the better, which is why people go the night before.

32 Monte B. February 23, 2009 at 11:16 am

I understand the Black will be closing 2 weeks prior to the Open. Is it true that it will also be closed following the Open? I caddie there regularly and would like to plan out my schedule. I also heard they are instituting a caddie program this year,(not the junior caddie program for kids), but it’s only rumor

33 Craig B. February 23, 2009 at 12:47 pm

Hi Monte. This was explained above: “The course will then close for the tournament and remain closed until two to four weeks afterward.” Hope to see you out there!

34 C.T.B. March 4, 2009 at 12:41 pm

Craig, thanks for the great info. When does Black open for play in 2009? Trying to arrange an early April visit but have heard it won’t be available for play until the 15th. Will Red or the others be open if Black is closed?

35 Craig B. March 4, 2009 at 1:16 pm

Last we checked, we were told “mid April.” Not sure there is a firm date yet as it largely depends on the weather. And, lately, the weather in the NY Metro area would not seem conducive to an earlier opening — it’s fr-fr-freezing here!

36 Monte B. March 5, 2009 at 12:57 pm

Just got back from the clubhouse. The Black course will open April 11-May 31. It will remain close after the Open until July 1. If the course is in good condition after the Open, it could open as early as the following Saturday.

37 Kamel T. March 19, 2009 at 2:01 am

Back to the main topic, I attempt to play the Black once a year, always mid-week, but it seems almost impossible to get through to the automated tee time system. I am a resident and I call at exactly 6:59 pm one week in advance (it usually tells me that I called too early). When I have succeeded it usually takes about 10-15 minutes of harried dialing and redialing resulting in a tee time later than 11 am. Is there a trick to this process that I am missing?

38 Kamel T. March 19, 2009 at 10:11 am

Can you provide some guidelines for tipping a caddie that charges $60? i.e. what is the range for the total s/he should pocket for carrying one bag vs. two bags. I really appreciate your input as I am always at a loss of what should be paid.

39 Monte B. March 19, 2009 at 11:40 am

I caddie at Beth black all season and what I charge, as do all the better caddies, is $75 plus tip. This usually works out to $100 per bag. This is based on carrying 2 bags. Most caddies won’t take a ‘single’ unless it’s really slow. Since the caddies show up by 7:00, wait several hours for a loop, then walk almost 51/2 hours with the bag, it’s an investment of approx 10 hours, and the price for one bag is usually not enough. Some singles will offer more just to secure a caddie. They have a ‘junior’ caddie program, who’s caddies charge a little less, but you get what you pay for. Be careful not to commit to the first caddie who approaches you. There are some bad ones around. They’ll introduce themselves to you as soon as you exit your car, and then feel they have a claim to you if you decide to take a caddie. To avoid this problem, just say “No thank you” and continue on to the clubhouse. Many times the better caddies congregate there and don’t need to troll the parking lot for customers.

40 Craig B. March 19, 2009 at 1:02 pm

How much to tip a caddie depends on so many things, I can’t give you a quick answer. But what I can do is devote an upcoming post to this important topic as there are likely others wondering the same thing.

41 Monte B. March 19, 2009 at 2:49 pm

At least two tee times a day are blocked out, either to be given to late arriving “VIP’s”, or just to help create spacing on the course. Also, it is rumored that officials of the course hold some earlier times for friends or as favors to ‘connected’ golfers.

42 James W. April 1, 2009 at 9:56 am

What time on the day before do cars start parking for the overnight stay to get on the Black course. If I got there before noon on the day before would i have a good chance of getting a parking spot.

43 Monte B. April 1, 2009 at 1:21 pm

It’s going to be very difficult to get on Black before July. From openong day till May 31, tee times will be between 8:00-1:00 only, with only 4 or 5 groups an hour. That’s 24-30 groups a day. After the Open, it will return to normal, 7:30AM-3:30PM, groups every 8 minutes.

44 James W. April 1, 2009 at 2:18 pm

I have asked this question to many people (even those who have played), and no one can answer it. What time do cars start showing up for the overnight wait for a chance to play Black.

45 Craig B. April 1, 2009 at 3:13 pm

James, this is mentioned in the main article above and, I believe, in the comments, too.

46 Tim M. April 16, 2009 at 1:02 pm

I grew up about 10 miles from the Black and have played it approx 20 times, at one time carding an 83 from Whites (there are no red tees). I am playing it again on April 22, 2009, only my 4th time since the Open was announced in 2002 and will be happy to break 110 since 2 young kids have cut into my playing time tremendously. A lot of good information here and I just wanted to add that believe it or not it is sometimes easier to carry your clubs then use a pull cart. Many greens are roped off a good 25-40 yards before the green, forcing you to pull your cart all the way around the bunkers surrounding the green. Also, pulling your cart up 15, coming off 17, and up 18 after putting out can be more tiring then just carrying your bag. A small trick on 15, aka HeartAttack Hill is to leave your bag between 15/16, bring your putter, driver, and 1 or 2 wedges with you if you’re not on the green. I got a tee time by stroke of pure dumb luck..friend jokingly said its 7pm call the tee time reservation system..hahaha..so I did..2 busy signals and then 3rd time WHAM!! ..got in..must be Karma for being such a good guy..hehe.. Seems to be a lot of helpful locals here, but if anyone needs anything specifically feel free to email me at golfnut1266@aol.com….I’ll check back after Wed with my Round report…(if I’m alive)….:) tm.

47 Monte B. April 16, 2009 at 3:22 pm

It’s even better to use a caddie. I happened to be a Bethpage registered caddie, and only registered and approved caddies are eligible to work the Black. If anyone wants to prearrange for caddie service here, I will be happy to help. There are currently 10-15 caddies being used by the Bethpage officials for golfers. Of these 6 or 7 are surperior to the rest; excellent greens readers, good with club selection, and overall efficient and courteous servive. If you would like to get a top quality caddie when you play thee Black, contact me here and I will give you the proceure for securing one. Enjoy your round.

48 Tim M. April 19, 2009 at 7:04 pm

Hey Monte! We’re playing the Black this Wednesday 4/22/09..I was told to just pop in the Pro Shop after paying Greens fees to secure Caddies. Is there something different?

49 Monte B. April 20, 2009 at 8:02 am

That is the current system. After you pay in the Pro shop, the will assign you next available caddy or caddies, depending on whether you need 2 or 4 bags carried. This guaranttes you a caddy, but not necessarily a good one, just the next one on the list. Right now there is a wide range in the abailities of the caddies. If you’d like to, contact me at 516 316 8936 and I will make sure you get 2 top quality caddies. As I’ve said before, I am close with about 6 other caddies who I have no trouble recommending. We all get call backs and referrals and network with each other when we get calls for caddies and need more than one. If you are going to do this, you must inform the Pro shop at least 24 hours prior that you have your own caddies, otherwise they will insist you use ones they give you. Pls call me today, Monday, or early Tuesday, if you want to try it this way. You won’t be disappointed.

50 Pete G. April 20, 2009 at 12:06 pm

Note to James W about the car lineup. I went to a party at the club house this past weekend and there were 5 or 6 cars there at 6:45pm on Friday.

51 James W. May 4, 2009 at 1:48 pm

Thanks for the info Pete G. I am hoping to get on Black my driving down from upstate New York early one day and parking until the next day. I hope that works. It would be a week day.

52 Pete G. May 5, 2009 at 8:08 am

Weekday probably the best and I notice the tents have already started to go up so you may be limited playing the Red or Green. Got my tickets yesterday, thanks to the USGA for giving those of us living closer to the course better parking.

53 Rich O. May 8, 2009 at 11:28 am

How do you get your access #? I registered with the system 1 1/2 weeks ago? Thanks

54 Craig B. May 8, 2009 at 11:34 am

Could be a backup due to a flood of applications. I’d give them a call to inquire.

55 Patrick S. May 8, 2009 at 2:01 pm

I’m heading out there to play the Black next week Thursday. I have registered to make a tee time but I’m not too optimistic. I will not be able to get to the park until 1 or 2 in the morning. Is there any chance I’ll get a walk on spot? We are a twosome. Thanks for the insight

56 Patrick S. May 8, 2009 at 2:28 pm

Rich O you have to call them for your registration number. I waited 3 days and heard nothing, then called and got it from an operator.

57 Rich O. May 13, 2009 at 11:47 am

i called this morning and got my #. wish me luck. Thanks guys.

58 Mike L. May 24, 2009 at 8:24 am

what are the chances of a single or double showing up on a monday or tuesday morning in july and getting out? Figured weekdays would obviously be less busy.

59 Tim M. May 24, 2009 at 9:40 am

Course is usually closed on Mondays, but I would think your chances would be better than 50/50, becaus they will be back to normal schedule then.

60 Rich O. May 26, 2009 at 6:39 pm

I stopped by today to check it out. There were only 2 cars at 2 oclock. I would have been the 3rd but I have to work tomorrow, (boo hoo). Place looks amazing. I might try sleeping there thursday or friday.

61 Monte B. June 11, 2009 at 9:37 pm

The “Black” may reopen as early as 4 days after the Open. Check the phone system as those first reopen day reservation will not be 7 days ahead, because of the uncertainty surrounding the exact date. You may get a res. 2 days before your scheduled date/tee time. Thank you to those here who have used me as your caddy, and I will continue to be available once the course reopens. Please notify me at least 3 days before you will be playing, if you are interested in my service. Once again, my rates are the same as the park rates. montebrown@aol.com 516-316-8936

62 Rob H. June 20, 2009 at 6:45 pm

If you try and fail to get on the Black course, what are the chances of getting on the lessor-in-demand courses? Is it a pretty sure thing to be able to get on the Red course, or not so much? Or the Blue course or Green or Yellow. Can you pretty much just show up and play the Yellow? Is it worth making the effort just to play the other courses? Also are the rates for the other courses the same?

63 Tim M. June 21, 2009 at 6:48 am

In my opinion, the Red course is the only other course worth going out of your way for. They often hold tournaments and qualifying events on the Red. Not to diminish the conditions of the other 3 courses (Blue, Green, Yellow), because they are in superb condition, especially for muni tracts and the amount of play they get. When the Black was redone, the staff did not neglect the other 4 courses. However, the Green, Yellow and Blue are not worth going out of your way for if you have decent tracts near your hometown. Believe it or not, even as a single, you may have to wait 2-3 hours before teeing off, especially on weekends. It’s the luck of the draw, sometimes you can get a time within 30 minutes as well. Just in case anybody was wondering, the difficulty of the courses are as follows (hardest-easiest): Black, Red, Blue, Green, Yellow. (Although some will argue that Blue and Red should be reversed and there’s no arguing that the front 9 of the Blue is as tough as any 9 holes out there, but the back 9 is considerably easier (the 2 nines were built at different times), while the Red gives you 18 strong holes. Good Luck!

64 John W. June 21, 2009 at 9:37 am

That’s kinda what we figured. We will try to have everyone dial in and use both ID’s. Do you know if it will let you re-enter the reservation ID (so we can put in the second #) or will it just end the call? I assume it would have to or anyone who fat-fingered their number would be really upset.

65 John W. June 21, 2009 at 11:58 am

We have 8 players who we are hoping to get on the Black course. If we are able to break through the reservation system (we have two NY-ers who are registered) can we make both tee times during a single call? We don’t really have to play in back to back tee times, but it would obviously be preferred. Thanks!

66 Monte B. June 21, 2009 at 3:38 pm

That’s a very good question. I caddy at the black and I’ve never heard of anyone getting 2 tee times on only one phone call, but that doesn’t mean it isn’t possible. To play it safe, have several guys calling at once, that will increase your chances of getting thru and of getting 2 tee times close to each other.

67 Tim M. June 21, 2009 at 6:01 pm

“We have 8 players who we are hoping to get on the Black course. If we are able to break through the reservation system (we have two NY-ers who are registered) can we make both tee times during a single call? We don’t really have to play in back to back tee times, but it would obviously be preferred. Thanks!” Unfortunately the answer to this is No. Once a reservation is made under one #, the system will end the call. If you try and make another reservation during a subsequent call with the same #, the system will tell you that you already have a reservation.

68 Mike L. June 23, 2009 at 10:19 am

I plan on going out on a Tuesday or Wednesday in July. If show up at 6 or 7 as a single. What time could I get out by? How much is a caddy typically cost?

69 Steven C. June 23, 2009 at 1:28 pm

Just wondering, I was at the Open on the Sunday and saw all the damage to the Black, will that push back the open date? There is alot of work to be done, re-sodding and such, I was planning an August trip as a single.

70 Monte B. June 23, 2009 at 2:14 pm

From what I heard, the black should be reopening June 30. Anyone needing a good caddy, please contact me. I am an experienced Bethpage Black caddy, and registered with the pro shop there. My rate is the same as the course rate, $75 plus gratuity. I prefer to carry 2 bags, and anyone coming as a foursome, let me know and I will arrange for another good caddy to be available. While half the caddies employed at Bethpage are adequate, only a handful, 5 or 6, are exceptional, and many are just bag toters and don’t understand club selection or read greens. Contact me if interested, at montebrown@aol.com, or 516 316 8936. Once again, thanks to those of you who have used me this spring.

71 Tim M. June 23, 2009 at 3:34 pm

I heard the same as Monte, approx June 28-30 for re-opening…I was there today (50% off sale on merchandise) and it’s hard to imagine them being ready for play in 1 week. The other courses were more affected by the set-up and may suffer from temp tees or greens on 1 or 2 holes until they get fairways back in shape… Caddies are $75+ tip PER BAG, usually $100 total per bag. As for getting on as a single in July??…Major crapshoot…the day of the week will not matter since they only have 6 tee times per hour, ..but don’t be surprised if you show up at 6a or 7a and can’t get on until 2p-3p, if at all….when I was younger I’d walk up and get an afternoon tee time on Black then grab a morning time on one of the other course and play 36..exhausting day considering you have to walk Black and we’d usually walk the morning round. Just to clear up the phone res discussion above..once you make a reservation it will end the call…you CANNOT re-enter a different ID..you’ll have to call back. Good Luck! tm

72 Tim M. June 23, 2009 at 4:23 pm

Just to follow-up..I called the Pro Shop (516-249-0700), the Black will re-open June 29. It will be closed July 1 for just the day. As a side note to local players: Holes #1 and #18 on BOTH the Red & Green will play as Par 3′s. Holes #1& #10 on BOTH the Yellow & Blue will play as par 3′s. (This info can be heard on the automated line (516-249-0707)). These holes suffered the most damage due to Hospitality & Merchandise Tents being placed there.

73 James W. June 24, 2009 at 1:01 am

Does the reservation system always give you the message that you are trying to make a reservation on a day that reservations are not yet being taken when in fact that tee time is not available? I do not understand why when calling, the system either gives you the next available tee time, or just gives you a message that no tee times are available on that day. How do callers actually get a tee time via the reservation system? Does anyone know of a strategy to use when you do get through? I am trying to get on the Black course.

74 Kamel T. June 24, 2009 at 1:16 am

James, (I am assuming that you are registered in their system) you have to call one week in advance at 7 pm. If you want to play on a Wednesday, call the prior Wednesday at 7 pm. You’ll get busy signals and/or a recorded message saying all lines are busy, however if you do get through you should immediately press 1 (to make a reservation). Then go through the sequence of key punches to get your reservation. I suggest trying this out during a week day to get the right sequence figured out. Note, if you call on Wednesday (in the example) before 7 pm, you will get a message saying that are not yest being taken. Good luck.

75 James W. June 24, 2009 at 1:18 am

I need to clarify my comment above. I meant to ask why can’t they have a system that either gives you the next available tee time on the Black or a message that says no tee times are available. What are the valid tee times? Are they every 8 minutes starting at 6:30AM?

76 John W. June 24, 2009 at 1:36 am

Tim – Thanks for the reply, but I was not thinking we could make both tee times during the single call so let me rephrase: If I call and use the first ID, and it tells me that there is already a res associated with that #, that means that one of the other guys already got in with that one. So I am not really making a res with that first number during my call, it is giving me an “error”. Will it prompt me to re-enter at that point, so I can put in my second ID or will it just hang up? If not, we will all probably have to get online and be more coordinated. Hate to get through and then get hung up on. Hope that makes sense.

77 Rich O. June 24, 2009 at 5:59 am

me and my buddy tried for an hour and a half last nit before finally getting through and nothing, lol. Everything was taken. someone get a tee time and just invite me, haha

78 Kamel T. June 24, 2009 at 6:46 am

John, I recommend just calling during the day and see if you can switch between IDs in one call. Try getting a tee time ona different course, with the first # and then see if there is a way to change the ID# whixch you are logged in with. Rich, I called last night and got a noon tee time in 5 minutes. It’s just a matter of luck. Monte, I will need one or two caddies. Can I expect to pay you $200 total to carry 2 bags?

79 Rich O. June 24, 2009 at 7:14 am

That is awesome. We dialed non stop and only had got a time for the red course. We will have to try again today.

80 Monte B. June 24, 2009 at 7:27 am

Yes Kamel, $200 is fine. If you’ll need another caddy, give me adequate time to arrange for one, about 3 days. Also, I’ll need your date and tee time and the name the res is under, to notify the pro shop that you are bringing your own caddy. Otherwise, they may try and force you to use whoever they have on the grounds at the time you check in. They request a minimum of 1 day prior notice if golfers are bringing their own caddies. Thank you and feel free to contact me by phone or email.

81 Tim M. June 25, 2009 at 8:18 am

James: If you get through prior to 7pm (system time), it will tell you that you have called before tee times have been released, assuming you are registered in the system. If you’re not registered in the system, it will only allow you to make a reservation 2 days in advance and you will hear that message. I suggest calling them directly (516-249-0700) to make sure your # is valid, they suspended mine for failure to cancel within 48 hours (it was raining night before) and they banged me for $20 bucks! Trying to reason with the staff over there is beyond fruitless, as I tried explaining to the woman that I would never have cancelled if the weather was playable. But if the course is open, you’re expected to show up, or pay late cancellation fee, which is FAR better than the dreaded no show fee. If you fail to cancel your reservation on ANY course over there, they charge you an astounding $80 (20 per player)!!!..and they still make money off your time as they will re-post it on the board within 20 min of scheduled tee time. But I digress…. If there are no tee times available, it clearly states, “There are no tee times available” on the recorded message. (I know this message all too well). I believe first tee time is around 5:30am right now and on Black they are every 9 minutes, but they usually block 1 tee time per hour to “space the course”..otherwise known as, in case someone really important shows up we can get them out within an hour.

82 Tim M. June 25, 2009 at 8:20 am

Monte: I sent you a text…are you and friend available this coming Tues June 30 for 4 bags total around 2pm?? Thanks Tim

83 Monte B. June 25, 2009 at 10:20 am

Hi Tim. I am available for that time. I’m also booked for an outing on the Black Weds morn at 7:00 AM, so my legs and back should be pretty tired by Weds eve. I will get a second excellent caddy as well.I need your exact tee time and the name it is booked under so I can inform the pro shop that you have contracted for your own caddies, otherwise the may try and stick you with a couple of bag toters for the same fee. This needs to be done at least 24 hours prior to your tee time. Also, very important, PLS bring carry bags w/legs and empty them of those extra 20 or so practice balls most golfers carry around. You won’t need more than 5 or 6, unless your prone to hitting some occasional sharp hooks or extreme fades. Then bring a dozen.I have 2 lightweight carry bags you can use if you don’t have your own. I got your text message and will call you tomorrow to firm up. Remember, the Black doesn’t close for rain, unless it’s really heavy. Talk to you soon and thanks. Monte

84 Tim M. June 26, 2009 at 7:12 am

LOL…5 or 6 balls!?!?! I’ll lose that by the 5th or 6th hole!….I’m a hacker extraordinaire and will probably lose at least a dozen balls.. if you’re expecting PGA pros perhaps I’ll arrange through ProShop. As for my bag, it is what it is…not sure if this will work if you’re already making demands on the # of balls I carry and type of bag I bring…..

85 Monte B. June 26, 2009 at 8:59 am

Hey Tim, don’t worry about the # of balls you’ll need, take what you think is necessary. We always request that golfers leave those scuffed balls they carry but never use out. Any bag with legs is fine. That way the caddy doesn’t have to lay the bag on the grass which is often damp, and have the grips pick up moisture and dirt. As I said, I have extra bags if you only have a cart type bag. You’ll all have a great time.

86 Tim M. June 26, 2009 at 9:47 am

Cool….now if we can ever get it to stop raining here on Long Island!! 22 days of rain out of 26 this month!! Unbelievable! Anybody want any souvenir divots?? Sure hope we get to play this Tuesday! Monte: I got your voicemail, but can’t call from work right now…but I’ll definitely be in touch…..I can’t wait to try out my Father’s Day present…Callaway uPro GPS…anybody have any experience with this unit??

87 Tim M. June 29, 2009 at 3:35 am

Dennis G: I’m playing there tomorrow (June 30-Tues), so I’ll try and get a feel for what the wait situation is like since it’s the same day of week you’re looking at….

88 Dennis G. June 29, 2009 at 10:27 am

I am planning on planning to play the black as a twosome and sleeping in the car thing. I was wondering what time do I need to get at the lot we are driving from boston 4 hr drive. Looking to play during mid week tuesday or Wednesday. Also to see if any one knows a good public course to play on the ride down? Thanks.

89 Paul R. June 30, 2009 at 6:00 am

I just found this site and am thrilled with all the helpful information. I have read everyone’s comments and want to thank all those for their experiences getting on and playing the black. I plan on being “the car” showing up early for my foursome to play the next day. I will likely get their by noon the day before (mid week). A few questions: 1) If I get there at noon and end up in a spot between 1 and 6, does this guarantee me a time for the next day? If so, I can contact the “other guys” so they can plan accordingly. 2) I plan on playing between mid Sept to mid Oct, 2009. What is the condition of the course during that time? When do they typically aerate the greens on the black course? Do they also over-seed during that window? 3) Back in 2002, how crazy was it to get a walk on slot during Sept-Oct timeframe? 4) I definitely will want to hire caddies. Is the day before too late to get the experienced loopers? Thanks in advance, Paul from PA.

90 Tim M. June 30, 2009 at 6:00 am

Hey Paul, welcome to the insanity!..Yes, if you are one of the first 6 cars, you are guranteed a tee time, actually you will have one of the first 6 tee times of the day, as the first hour is reserved for “car-sleepers”, then 1 tee time per hour is reserved for walk-ups. As for mid-Sept-mid Oct conditions, this is my fave time of year to play golf on Long Island, but it can be cool in the mornings. I would say the weather is very similar to PA weather. As for course conditions that time of year, I don’t know the aeration schedule or seeding schedule. You can always call 516-249-0700 and ask, or ask for Pro Shop and ask them. I never recommend a 4some hoping to secure a walk up time unless you’re sleeping in car….as a single you may get lucky, but 4 somes are hard to snag. SOmedays tyhere are no-shows and you could get lucky and walk right into a 4 some tee time going off in 30 minutes..most times, however, it will be hours, if at all. Another thing to remember with that time of year, there is less daylight, so less tee times..although they will still let you go out at 4pm, knowing sun sets at 7 or so…which I NEVER recommend because the 9th hole doesn’t come back to the clubhouse..in fact the 9th hole is about as far away from the clubhouse as you can get..As for caddies, Monte is an active caddy who posts here regularly, so I’ll defer to him. I am actually playing today at 2pm and using Monte and another caddy recommended by Monte, so I’ll post my experience here in the next few days…don’t expect PGA stuff…due to 2 small kids I now only play 3-4 times a YEAR..so my realistic goal is to break 110.

91 Tim M. July 1, 2009 at 9:46 am

Played yesterday..thanks Ron and Monte for caddying. Due to having a 4 and 1 yr old, I only get to play 3-4 times per year and I had zero expectations for my day, I only played because my friends from Jersey couldn’t get a tee time..set a goal of under 110. Started off as expected and ended front 9 with a 53, which included a par of par5 #7. My friend made a swing adjustment and moved ball positioning and back 9 was completely different story…shot 42 on back, including back-to-back pars on 13 and 14 and birdie on 18 (What a way to end it!!) for a 95 total with zero lost balls! Two of my friends shot a pair of 82′s from Blues, but they weren’t playing from tips..in fact Blues weren’t that far back from whites. Course is in awesome shape, even with the greens being aerated last week…they roll true, although my friend complained they weren’t sticking for his short approach shots. There are still divots from the Open, and their divots are so perfect! Quite a few holes still had grandstands and hospitality tents set up, which was cool. DENNIS G: There is an outing there today, course is closed, so I couldn’t gauge the overnight parking lot line. Driving range is still not open..think the woman said July 6. PAUL R: I asked about aeration and they weren’t sure of the fall schedule yet. Feel free to email me with any additional questions: golfnut1266@aol.com

92 Matt Y July 16, 2009 at 11:03 am

Any idea where the comments since July 1st have gone? I had a question out there and was getting alerts that there were some responses, but now I don’t see anything since Tim M’s comment on 7/1.

93 PaulR July 18, 2009 at 6:45 am

The wonderful world of IT… My guess is the file got whacked and either the wrong backup was used to restore or they backup once per month (at the beginning of the month hence the July 1st last update).

You will like need to repost your questions…

94 Steve July 20, 2009 at 12:54 pm

I am traveling for work in a few weeks and want to get on Black on Tuesday morning as a single. Since I am flying in I would rather rent clubs than deal with the hassle and pay 50 dollars to ship my clubs to NY and back, do they have decent rental clubs or would it be a better option to try to bring my own?

95 Mark B July 21, 2009 at 7:05 pm

Is there a problem for walk-ons to be a twosome and not a group of 4?

96 elliot k July 21, 2009 at 9:50 pm

as an fyi for all, I called the course and it is closed on the following days:

07/22 thru 07/24
07/27 thru 07/29

I’ll be playing there within the month

97 Brad July 24, 2009 at 7:24 pm

G’day all. I’m presently planning a trip from Australia with my wife and hoping to be in NY from Sept 21. Have no clue on how to get onto Bethpage Black. Don’t think I’ll try to get my clubs on the plane but will stuff my shoes into luggage if I know I can get hire clubs . Booked into hotel in NY for 7 day trip. Anyone got any clues for me in arranging a hit on the course as a single. I’m a regular golfer in Australia. Thanks for anyones help on this.

98 Nick July 26, 2009 at 12:19 am

hey so i am planning a trip in october(about the 20th) to go to NYC and play a round at bethpage. i am a single and i was wondering what kind of chance i would have of actually being able to reserve a tee time. or would the walk on be my best bet?

99 max July 30, 2009 at 6:04 pm

I am planning to to go to bethpage black on Aug. 14. The greens are to be top- dressed on Aug. 10. Has anyone played the course a few days after it has been top-dressed to know how much the greens are affected. I have played some courses that are playable right after top-dressing, and I have played some that take several weeks to be close to healed.

100 Timbo August 3, 2009 at 12:15 pm

Hey- looking for an honest reaction. I’m not a good golfer. I usually hit 105 on other NYC muni courses. I would love to play Black this year (with a caddie). I play extremely fast and I do not hold anyone up. Generally- so long as the pace of play is kept- will it matter that I’m hacking away?

Thanks.

101 Bill August 3, 2009 at 12:21 pm

Hi, is it possible to drive in with an RV/camper instead of a car? Does it need to fit in a “car-size” parking space? We are thinking of having the four of us sleep overnight in a RV. THANKS

102 Jimmy Mac August 4, 2009 at 1:54 pm

First of all I want to thank everyone on this site for all of the tips and information which helped me to get out on the Black last Friday. I’m from MA and spent the week on the Isaland on business. After my meetings on Thursday I drove to Bethpage around 2:30 pm and backed into spot #1. My brother in law was on his way down from Saratoga, NY to meet me. Unbelievable. We were guaranteed the first group out Friday morning. We had a great time (maybe too good of a time) tailgating in the parking lot with all of the others. Grabbed a couple of hours of sleep before the ranger rolled up to hand out the bakery tickets at around 4:30. We teed off at 6:41 with Rich and Mel from Queens, great guys. The course was absolutely brutal, but it was awesome to play the same holes where I watched the world greatest golfers play just 1 month earlier. My score was not what I hoped but I will be back in my quest to break 100. One other thing, as I rolled out of the parking lot at around 1:30 pm on Friday afternoon, there was already about 10 cars lined up for Saturday.

103 PaulR August 4, 2009 at 8:22 pm

FYI: I spoke to the pro shop today. They said the Black greens will be aerated on August 10th (not just top dressed).

104 John H August 6, 2009 at 8:43 am

I have tee time for Sunday at 3:33, what are th echances of completing all 18 holes before dark? I see that sunset is schedyuled for 8:00 exactly.

Thanks

105 Mike B August 8, 2009 at 8:32 pm

I played the Black today! What an amazing course, and experience. The round took 5.5 hours and we played pretty fast. So, if you’re starting at 3:33, you probably won’t get 18 in. I hired a caddie. He wasn’t much help, but having someone carry my bag was key as I’m still more exhausted than any other round I’ve played and usually I carry my own bag. Long straight drives are key! I’m not a long hitter and that cost me a lot of penalty strokes (I’m 110% honest in counting strokes. No mulligans, etc). There are several holes where the fairway is very, very hard to reach if you can’t hit it 260 and straight. If you come up short, you’re in fescue rough and can easily lose your ball. The greens are actually not that fast, despite a lot of online talk about that. They’re also surprisingly “un-tricky” and generally fairly flat, and are VERY true which is great. Practice your sand game before you go! There’s a lot of it. The Black is a weird experience–I shot my highest score ever today, but I’ve never felt better after a round of golf (and I actually didn’t play badly…). I crushed my tee shot off of hole #1 straight down the middle. This was a great way to start, as there are locals who sit on benches and watch everyone tee-off. It’s very public at hole #1. After that, it’s tranquil and surprisingly not crowded for such a legendary course. Best course I’ve ever played. Can’t wait to play a “normal” course after this one and treat myself to a scorecard with 10-20 fewer strokes! Ha! Have fun!

106 Mike S August 9, 2009 at 7:55 pm

What are the chances of a single showing up on Wednesday 8-12 around 11am and getting out on the Black with a 3some? Also I am not registered or a resident of the State of NY.

107 Adrian August 9, 2009 at 10:42 pm

I called 7 days in advance to get a tee time and all I would get was best available time was 4:30pm I was looking for more of something in the morning. Does message mean that all times are booked that day? or should I just keep calling?

108 Steve August 10, 2009 at 3:13 pm

I just played the 3:33 teetime this last Tuesday. We got 15 holes in under light and hurried to get the last 3 holes in although the last two holes we couldnt see where our balls so just had to gauge on feel. If you have a good idea of how you hit, you might be able to squeak in 18, but plan on the last 4 holes to be blind.

Also, I used the rental clubs and I would highly suggest anyone to find a way to bring their own clubs. It is a difficult course to play no matter what, but if you dont have a trusty club out of the rough or to hit off the tee into the fairway it can make for some tough holes. They give you Adams clubs which are fine in general, but all of the woods are regular stiff flex- so if you have faster club head speed, you have to adapt.

For golfers who are worried about not being good enough to play out there, you shouldnt worry too much. You can always play the white tees which in general are 50+ yards up.

109 Robert W August 13, 2009 at 3:06 pm

I will be showing up at 4:00 am Sept. 26 as a single to play Black. Unfortunately I can’t leave my car the day before. Anyone care to share their thoughts on my chances to tee off before 10am?

110 Graeme McG August 18, 2009 at 6:02 pm

This is a really neat site with lots of good information. It sounds like Bethpage black is one not to miss.
We are visiting New York on hols next week and I would love the opportunity to play Bethpage black. I am a 4 handicap from Letham Grange in Scotland.
Can you advise a good time to pitch up with a chance of getting a game.
Does the pro shop keep enough spare sets in stock.
Thanks G.

111 Buckeyebob August 27, 2009 at 2:13 pm

Played the Black the same weekend of the 2005 US Open at Shinnecock. Slept in the car on Thurday night and got out around 10AM on Friday. Played my balls off and still shot 82….and I’m a scratch golfer.

By far one of the best courses I have ever played….and that includes Pebble Beach, Kiawah Ocean, Pasatiempo, Scioto and Oakmont.

Wishing I had time to do it again!!

112 sj September 4, 2009 at 10:37 pm

Playing this Sunday at 2:30. As a NY state resident, last Sunday it was about 6:55 and just decided to see what I would be able to get if I started dialing a few mins before 7PM. usually if you start dialing after 7:05 you will be lucky to get something before 3:30-4PM which means not very good chance of getting all 18 in. Was probably somewhat lucky as it is Labor Day weekend. If you are lucky enough to secure a tee time, secure it and just check back numerous times a day for cancellations. the first time I played the course this year, we had a 3:40 tee time and lucked out with a cancellation for a tee time at 1:30! I usually shoot in the low 90′s and occasionally high 80′s. First time I played this course last year, after the first hole I was like what the F am I doing out here!!! after the 9th I stopped keeping score, but after the 15th, I was already chomping at the bit to get back out there asap. it is truly an amazing course. I was out right after the open and ended up shooting a true 106! considering the conditions on that course, I would take that anyday considering. considering it was a 106, you would have thought I broke 80 out there!!! Go out there for the experience vs. trying to shoot the round of your life (it aint gonna happen!). As the summer comes to an end, it obviously will be getting darker sooner so unlike getting a tee time in the summer at say 2:30-3PM, a few more weeks and you will be dealing with darkness rolling in. Dont give up on trying to get on, I mean even if you are a ny resident and you pay the $55bucks and only get to play 10-15holes, it is still worth the money.

113 joe r September 11, 2009 at 12:06 pm

I am a regular golfer at Bethpage. I play all the courses. I can tell you that the caddie program has changed. Gone are the days of caddies soliciting in the park. All caddies affiliated with the Black course must register with the State. Though the caddies are registered, this does not insure you will have a quality caddie on your bag. Most of these guys will just carry your bag and offer bad or no advice. Scoring an “F” on even the most basic caddie services. These guys are not worth the $75 a bag + tip. My advice. Ask the Pro Shop who the top guys are and request there services. A great caddie on one of the Worlds greatest course will insure you have one of the best experiences of your life. Good luck…jr

114 PaulR September 17, 2009 at 8:43 pm

Just got a time between noon and 1 pm for next Thursday… dialed in at 6:59 pm eastern and was able to get through… This will be my first time playing on the black… Can’t wait. I will post back after we play.

Sure am glad… I was the unlucky one that was going to wait all day on Wednesday to get a time for Thursday morning. Now just hoping we are rain free.

115 tom kane September 22, 2009 at 1:28 pm

Do 100% of fees paid for caddies go to the caddy or does the club take something? If all the money is taken by the caddy then why is a “tip” mentioned. If the caddy fees are $60 or $75 then thats all I am giving.Its total bullshit to phrase it as “plus tip”

116 Anne D. September 23, 2009 at 9:34 pm

Are campers and trailers allowed in the parking lot if you want to stay overnight?

117 PaulR September 24, 2009 at 11:11 pm

Played the black today. Tee time: 12:42. Took us 5 1/2 hours. Shot 88 and am proud to say I did so using the same ball for the entire round. I used my 3 wheel speedcart. I know many have mentioned how difficult the course is to walk. The best way to describe walking the black is BRUTAL!!! All of us in my group were 49 to 52. We all labored to finish the round. That being said, I am thrilled that we decided to play. It is an amazing course.

In my opinion, the caddie fee 100 per bag (including tip) is without question reasonable. This is a very difficult course to carry a bag (or two).

When we went in to pay, I noticed they have monitors that display the available times. We were in there at 10 AM and I could see 2 available times for a single to play (11:30 ish and 2 ish). So a single should certainly get out (mid week anyway). I am not sure about the weekends.

I didnt notice any campers in the parking lot. But, the lot is significant in size. I doubt it would be a problem.

I drank 120+ ounces of G2 gatorade. It wasnt enough!!! Bring as my water as you can carry. The guys in my group carrying their bags were limited on how much fluid they could carry. My 3 wheel cart allowed me to carry several bottles. That was a big advantage.

Also, there really was no restrictions on where I could wheel the cart. I typically could skirt the fringe around the green with the cart. I found it to be the best way to walk and play the course.

118 Tony G September 25, 2009 at 8:31 am

I plan on playing on Monday.This information was very helpfull.
Thanks..
Tony..

119 Adam D September 26, 2009 at 1:35 am

Secured a tee for next Thursday at 12:33pm…can’t wait. I must have called over a dozen times starting around 6:57pm. I finally got through, I suggest rehearsing your call prior to the real thing. I now have memorized my ID number and my SS #.

Where else can you play a venue where professionals play…think about it. Who plays hockey at MSG or football at the Meadowlands. For us NY residents we are truly lucky to have such a pristine course in our backyard.

120 James October 2, 2009 at 6:42 pm

I played the black last year on October 15 and they had just aerated and top dressed the greens. I plan on playing next week hoping they adhere to the same schedule. Does anyone know if they plan on aerating and/or top dressing the greens/fairways/tees next week?

121 Sam C October 4, 2009 at 8:35 am

Thanks for the great info. I have a question for you all….. I am planning on playing black next weekend, and since it is later in the year do you advise showing up around 4:30am on saturday if we are planning on playing sunday? Also, does it matter how many ppl are in our group? We will be going up there with 3 people, but I read somewhere that you have to wait till you get a fourth (assuming we would have to snag a single thats in the car line) until you can get your tee time. Is that true?
Thanks for the help!

122 Sean October 6, 2009 at 9:12 am

What’s the chance of a single just showing up mid-week this time of year and being able to get out on the course (black)?

Thank you!

123 Rick February 15, 2010 at 3:40 am

I will be in NYC mid March 2010 (travelling from overseas). Does anyone know when the course opens again? Thanks.

124 Monte B February 22, 2010 at 12:35 pm

The Black course doesn’t open till mid April. The other courses will be open though.

125 Jeff G February 27, 2010 at 4:52 pm

I am going to be in NY the first week in August. I am looking forward to the chance to play Bethpage Black. I will be playing during the week as early as I can.
I am going to be a single and will probably get a caddie there onsite. I was wondering what time should I arrive to get in line? I probably will be taking a cab to get there since my family will be taking the rental car. Is there a better way? And once I get there since I won’t have a car to hold a spot what are my options? What method is best to get a caddie do they assign one to you or do you pick one out of their caddie crew?
Thanks for any information….

Is it still crazy hard to get on the course?

126 Monte Brown April 5, 2010 at 8:17 pm

Hello golfers. Bethpage Black opens in one week, April 13th. I will be caddying again this year, and want to take a moment to thank all of you who used me through this site, especially Mr Tony Kornheiser and his son, who were both gentlemen. The course is in excellent shape and plays a little easier this time of year, before all the leaves fill in. Once again, if you’re coming and want a top caddie, please contact me here, either by email or phone (516-316-8936). If you’ll need 2 caddies, I have several other excellent caddies who I network with. Have a great season and I hope to see you on the Black.

127 Monte Brown April 6, 2010 at 10:04 am

Jeff, usually coming as a single does not require an overnight wait. Singles can often get on just by showing up early in the AM (7:00) and waiting for a spot to open. Caddies can be arranged through the pro shop, though most prefer to carry 2 bags, but there are a few who will go out with a single. I’ve been caddying there for 5 years and know the course well. Anyone needing a good caddy can contact me here. I’ve had many loops through this site and no one has been disappointed. Good luck.

128 Matt H April 12, 2010 at 8:34 am

I am planning a two day trip to Bethpage in May. I am going to try to get out as a single. Are the other courses as hard to get on??? I am coming during the week tues-wed or thrus. Which other bethpage courses are good? My plan is to play the Black but if time permits I would like to try one of the other courses.

129 Paul S April 14, 2010 at 7:34 pm

Monte, I have a group planning to head up to the Black on the 24th. We are planning to get in line on Friday. Any suggestions as to what time we ought to be there to be sure we can get out at a reasonable time on Saturday? We are probably going to use caddies. Might you and one of your colleagues be available?

130 Tim M April 23, 2010 at 11:16 am

Welcome Back Golfers!! Happy 2010! I grew up playing Bethpage and am all too familair with all the nuances involved with getting a tee time and the course itself once you are on. Feel free to ask any questions, here or at my email..golfnut1266@aol.com.

131 Monte Brown April 27, 2010 at 5:11 am

Anyone looking to sleep over to get a tee time on the Black, it doesn’t seem necessary to arrive before 8:00 PM. I’ve gotten off the course at that hour recently, and haven’t noticed more than 2 cars lined up already. Paul, I looked for you last Friday but didn’t see you there. Perhaps your plans changed. Come soon golfers. The fescue is short and some trees are still bare, so you may save a few strokes. LOL

132 Stephen Phillip May 1, 2010 at 6:36 pm

I would like to play Tuesday, June 15th. I am an out-of-stater and a single, possibly twosome. Should I attempt the 2 day tee time system, or just try to walk on? Also, anyone interested in a round of golf on that day? I drove from Knoxville up to the Open last summer and can’t wait to get a chance to play the course.

133 george May 2, 2010 at 3:49 pm

this course will expose any weakness in your game , especially bunker play , some greenside bunkers are so deep you cannot see the flag on the green ,, 17 is the worst . prepare yourself to shoot 7-10 strokes higher the first time you play or even more , i was in a foursome , some korean guy all decked out in his new JL clothes and 400 dollar golf shoes claimed to be a scratch and shot 98 , scratch my ass

134 Monte Brown May 6, 2010 at 8:53 pm

Stephen, I’d advise getting to the park by 8:00 or 9:00, and look to get on as a single. I was on the course today and there were several threesome out playing. Good luck.

135 Mark Miller May 9, 2010 at 12:13 am

Monte, I would like to reserve your services, but as an out of stater and a single I won’t know details of my tee time and/day until two days ahead of time…My actual day is flexible and will be May 18 or 19 whichever works. Any suggestions for getting on the Black and having you caddy for me will be greatly appreciated. I will be staying in Huntington during the nights. Mark

136 Black Course Caddie Brown May 9, 2010 at 10:10 pm

I have been caddying on Bethpage’s Black course since 2000 and since then there have been a few third party tee time reservation services that charge an additional service surcharge fee on top of the greens fee which they require 1-2 weeks advance notification of the specific tee=time date you would like. The caddie system is in the process of being overhauled into a state of the art program of weeding out caddie bag-toters from professional technical caddies which provide laser yardage services, golf ball location, and green reading expertise. The system now is a lottery system where the caddies show up at 6am and pick a lottery# where they get dispersed according to the number they picked for the day, this does not guarantee you a quality caddie, so there are still some tweaks in the system that need to be worked on, which is crucial that you fill out the caddie evaluation sheet after your round, where in time bethpage will have a superior caddie program.

137 Pat H May 10, 2010 at 11:55 am

I am with a group of guys from KC looking at a trip to Bethpage in mid August. Likely be 3 to 4 of us leaving KC Tuesday with hopes of playing Black and others Wednesday, and Thursday. I was planning on arriving around 5pm Tuesday night for a Wednesday tee time (if the 2 day advanced reservation system could not secure us a time). Any flaws in that plan? We were hoping to get 36 holes each day. That said, we may be spent after playing the Black. Any suggestions on securing tee times on the Red + another for a 36 hole day?

Thanks,

138 Jon May 11, 2010 at 2:17 pm

Got to the parking lot on Thursday (5/6) night around 9 and there was only one other car in the lot from PA. Ended up taking the 3rd tee time off Friday morning and the course kicked my arse. Ended up with a 96 from the tips and only hit 2 fairways!! Think the course got into my head more than it should have though. But now having played it once and knowing the course a little better I should hopefully be able to take 6-8 strokes off next year!!! PS Don’t know last name but the guy we played with got a caddie and he was horrible. Didn’t get one read right and when the other guy got up to his ball he had no clue the yardage and had to be asked what it was before he started looking for sprinkler covers!!! On a couple holes he was asking me what the yardage was!!!
Was a great course and can’t wait to go back!!!

139 Ryan May 14, 2010 at 5:00 pm

I just made a tee time for Tuesday May 18th at 1:27 pm. Is there any way to talk to someone to confirm that??…I want to make sure it got in.

140 Harry D May 16, 2010 at 9:28 pm

I am coming to NYC memorial day weekend, and would love to walk on as a single. If I showed up Friday (May 28th) early in the AM, what would my chances be of getting out on the Black? And if it didn’t look promising, would I have trouble getting on Red or one of the other courses? Thanks for any help, I really hope to get up and play.

141 Harry D May 16, 2010 at 9:30 pm

ALSO…as an out-of-state walk-on, do I need to be registered in that system, or are there any other prerequisites needed to walk on? Thanks again

142 Monte B May 17, 2010 at 10:09 pm

Harry, getting on as a single has not been a problem this season. You should be able to get on the Black. Jon, sorry to hear your story about the bad caddie. There are services, like NY Glof Shuttle, that secure tee times for golfers, but then make the golfers take caddies provided by the service, not regular Bethpage caddies. These ‘outside’ caddies are not familiar with the course and usually just serve to carry your bag. The regular guys are much more knowledgable and can be a big asset to your game. If you plan on coming, and want a top caddie, contact me thru this website, or by phone, and I guarantee you won’t be disappointed.

143 Harry D May 17, 2010 at 10:40 pm

Thanks Monte. As to my second question, would I need to register in to automated system if I am simply a walk-on? I caddy a little bit at The Country Club in Brookline, MA (’99 Ryder Cup venue)…hope you have a good season.

144 Monte May 18, 2010 at 11:49 am

I don’t believe you need to be registered. Just have a valid drivers license to establish your state of residence. The fee for out of staters is double. If you need to be in the system, they can do it right there at the window.

145 Jon May 18, 2010 at 12:29 pm

Monte. The caddie was actually one of the Bethpage caddies. It was wierd on the first tee he looked at us and said that he was the first caddie off for the day because he was the best one they have. I’m assuming he’s probably the worst instead of the best.

146 Steve May 18, 2010 at 1:26 pm

Pat H. Your plan is solid, I have done the same thing over the last three years. Staying overnight should (key here is should) land you a morning time on the Black (you’ll know by how many cars/people are ahead of you in the numbered lot, the first 5 or 6 tee times in the morning are saved for overnight car people). When you get to the window in the morning to get you tee time, you can also get an additional tee time for the afternoon on one of the other courses (red being the next best). Make sure you give yourself enough time, the black is usually not a 4.5 hour round. Even being in the earlier groups, it still takes some time to play, based on skill and players ahead of you. Also, depending on your fitness level, walking the Black in August (heat and hum.) will be fairly taxing. Enjoy the overnight, couple places to get food at the bottom of the hill, pizza delivers, club house has a nice patio, locker room access for showers, tailgating games, talking golf with other overnighters, etc. Look forward to doing this each year.

147 Monte May 20, 2010 at 7:10 am

Hi Jon. I wish you could remember the caddie’s name. We have one caddie who likes to take single bags, just because most prefer doubles, and will pass a single down to someone lower on the list. He’s about 5’8″ 165 lbs, and alas was fired yesterday for poor caddying. The rest of the caddies hate guys like that, as they reflect badly on the rest of us, who are generally pretty good. BTW, a lot of caddies have a little bit of BS in their spiel, so it’s no surprise he claimed to be ‘the best’. LOL

148 Jon May 21, 2010 at 9:26 am

Monte. I didn’t want to say his name because there might be others with the first name. But his name started with a J and he said he was in his 50′s. Nice guy just not a good caddie.

149 Robert May 21, 2010 at 10:30 am

Monte you’re full of S***. You’re the worst caddie I’ve ever had.

150 Monte May 23, 2010 at 11:16 pm

Ha. Nice try “Robert”, but I never caddied for you. And you sound like the worst golfer ever. And Jon, I believe we’re talking about the same person. Too bad.

151 Harry D June 3, 2010 at 8:13 pm

Played as a walk on last Friday. There seemed to be a lot of room for walk-ups to get tee times throughout the morning. I showed up at 6:15am and got off at 8:48. Loved it! I wanted to play the tips, but a regular in my 4-some told me to play the tips my next time back. Glad he did, because I certainly didn’t feel cheated from the whites. A very long, demanding day on the course. A physical and mental grind! I have broken 80 a few times on decent courses, but considering the course difficulty, I think it was the best, most consistent round of my life…shot 84. Will be back as soon as possible!

152 Evan June 4, 2010 at 3:03 pm

I am going to be in Plainview the week after 4th of July. I want to play that Thursday, July 8th. What is the best way to get on as a single who will be staying about 15 minutes away? I don’t care what time I tee off, as long as I am done before dark (staying with in-laws, so the longer the round, the less in-law time).

Can I just wake at dawn and wait it out at the range/putting green? Is there a decent cup of coffee?

This is a giant dream of mine, so any help would be greatly appreciated.

BTW, I am a Colorado resident.

Thanks!!

153 Chris June 16, 2010 at 12:23 pm

Does anyone know the aerification schedule for the Bethpage courses? I’m looking to head up there in August or September.

154 Steve June 16, 2010 at 4:59 pm

Chris, call the golf course….they usually are able to tell you, fairly far out. You need to check about outing and tournaments too.

155 Steve N. June 19, 2010 at 2:56 pm

My son is a student in and resident of New york, but is not planning to get his license switched over from Ct. Are there other ways to prove your residency

156 Bill June 21, 2010 at 2:54 am

I am planning on playing the Black course with a friend Thursday July 1st. He regularly shoots in the low 80′s, and I struggle to break 100 (but have done it many times). I thought he wouldn’t be interested in having me tag along, but he is a Massachusetts resident and I am a NY resident. So I can try to get us a better tee time. I am looking forward to playing the course
I do have one bit of advice for anyone looking to book a tee time. Check the listed phone number a few weeks in advance, to see if the course is closed on your particular date. We had originally planned on play Wed June 30th, and I took the advice of someone on this webboard to “practice” calling for a tee time. There was a message saying the Black course would be closed that day. Luckily we were able to change our vacation plans slight to accomodate this.
I thought since I had received such good advice from others, I would pass along a bit of help.

157 Timaaay June 21, 2010 at 4:11 pm

Im in the system, what time can I start calling if I want to golf 7/1

158 Gerald June 22, 2010 at 12:24 pm

I am considering extending a trip to NY for three days to try to get on the Black course. Unfortunately, on the park’s golf related website, there are days blacked out for golf outings on the two days that I am considering trying to get on the Black course. How can I find out if these two outings are on the Black course? Days in question are Tue Sept 7 & Wed Sept 8.

159 Craig Better June 22, 2010 at 1:31 pm

Call one of the Bethpage phone numbers for the most reliable info. Yes, you can get through to a human being who will answer your specific question. I’ve called a few times and received relatively friendly service given the high-volume of calls they have to handle.

160 AD June 23, 2010 at 2:27 pm

I’m considering playing on Friday 7/2, can i start calling at 7pm on 6/25?

161 Monte Brown June 23, 2010 at 4:21 pm

To Steve N. As far as I know, a valid drivers license is the only acceptable form of ID accepted. However, out of state residents are charged higher rates only on the red and black courses.

162 Brian June 23, 2010 at 9:30 pm

Would like to play the black (coming as a single out of state) this Friday (6/25)… Should I get there Thursday by 6:45pm or arrive very early Friday (6am)?
Thanks in advance!

163 Gerald June 27, 2010 at 5:39 pm

Brian,
Did you get on this past Friday and when did you arrive at the course?

164 Rick July 1, 2010 at 6:34 pm

Does anyone know where I can find the calander to know when blackout days are scheduled and the black course is closed?

165 Pat H July 2, 2010 at 10:50 am

Thanks for all the input. We are getting closer to booking this trip. We are (a 3 some) currently planning to play rounds on Tues Aug 10 and Wednes the 11th. In a perfect scenario we are aiming to fit 4 rounds in (potentially 2 on the black). Can any one give any input/advice for my 3-some on the following,

(1) Assuming our camping is successful and we get an early AM time on Black the first day – what is the best approach for securing a tee time on another BP course that afternoon? I am registered in the phone system, so that is one method. However, is there any benefit (possibility) of snagging an Red course afternoon tee time at the same time we are going through the process of obtaining or morning round?

(2)We are planning on staying in a hotel Tues night. What would be the recommended approach for setting up our Wednesday rounds. If we decided on the Black again, I assume that would require another night of ‘camping’. Would it be possible that we could arrive early in the am (say 3:00) before the park opens and get in the back of the line and hope to get an afternoon tee time on Black and an morning walkup on say the Blue/Green?

166 Joey the slicer July 5, 2010 at 5:40 pm

We arrived at Bethpage on Wed. Our plan was to play the Red course on Thursday. Come off the course and get on the car line for the Black course. 2 of us wanted to get caddies and the others were going to carry there own. We all heard that getting a caddy here might not be the best thing to do, so we were very skeptical. The night we arrived we hit balls on the range. We started asking locals about the caddie situation. We asked at the bar, the pro shop, even the men’s room. One name of a caddie kept on coming up in most of our inquiries….Johnny G. This is the guy you want out there on the Black course. We made a call and hired him for our Fri. round. Though the Black course beat us up that day, we all would have been lost out there if not for our caddie. It was our first time on the Black and I highly recommend him if you are in need of a caddie on this course. Good luck to all you hackers trying to beat the Black. This is one hard course.

167 Brian July 8, 2010 at 8:45 pm

Gerald… Arrived @ the course by 5am and waited in line for about 10 minutes and was able to join a group of 3 for the 6:42am tee time. I’m an 8 index and shot 87 (46-41) with 1 bird on 13 (from the tips). Overwhelmed at first and probably overswinging as well (which caused the 46). Everyone was so nice from registration, the starter, the NY guys I played with and the folks in the pro shop. Can’t wait to come back in the fall, a truely great golf experience!

168 Gerald July 9, 2010 at 9:37 am

Thanks Brian. Good stuff on the round. I imagine the nerves would be overwhelming at first.

I will now be in NY in late August with three free days (Wed/Thur/Fri) instead of early Sept with two free days. I am going to try to get on BP Black as a single and will try my luck much in the same fashion you did.

Did you get a caddie?

169 Steve July 13, 2010 at 8:47 am

to Pat H.
1. camping should land you a early morning black, so while you are at the counter getting your black time and paying, go ahead and talk to them about afternoon rounds on another course (red 1st option). I have done this the last couple years and it works really well, they can walk through the different openings on any of the courses. Give yourself a little extra time on the second round, the black takes a while even if your in an early group. Any extra time between is good for shower and changing clothes (daily use locker room for like $10, bring your own towels and stuff…walking the black is pretty tough) and grabbing a bite on the patio. Carts are available on the other course, better to ride 2nd round.
2. You’ll get a read on what to do for the following day from the night before, whether to go hotel and back early or just camp another night (I just shower, eat and camp again, sleep better the second night, because you’re beat from 36 and a long day of golf). They only have 1 tee time for walk ups per hour after the first hour of the day (which all go to overnight/early walk ups), however since the Open was last yr, maybe the craziness has slowed down.
Good luck

170 mainegolfer July 16, 2010 at 1:41 pm

HI all, gonna make the trip and play last week of July on the BLACK.
Last year, my son and I attended the US Open and said we needed to come back and play.
I guess the option will be to camp out to play. Any advice on what day of the week is best and should we arrive a day early to make sure we can get on the next day?
Any advice would help. Thanks

171 Sandy July 24, 2010 at 9:14 am

Hi can somebody help – how can i Book the black Course from onerseas?

172 mainegolfer July 30, 2010 at 10:56 am

Hi all, we got to play the Black on Sunday July 25th. Got registered in the system and hit the jackpot securing a tee time so no camping out. The course layout is absolutly fantastic and is very fair, but difficult. The worst storm I had ever seen hit while we were preparing to tee off on the 10th hole. Tornado like in its ferocity! It lasted about 40 minutes and knocked out power all over L.I. We survived the storm and stayed out to finish our round, playing around the standing water and tree debris, as no rain checks are allowed after 5 holes.
It was a great experience and will do it again as the bank account allows.

173 David Lainchbury August 3, 2010 at 4:37 pm

Can anyone tell me at what time I should call the reservation system , I registered as a resident so am able to call 7 days in advance .. just need to know what time the hot line opens

Thanks

174 Arizonapingstud August 5, 2010 at 4:59 pm

We had no problem securing a tee times. no camping overnight. The course was brutal that day. How can you beat this beast. And we’re all 4-6 handicaps. Course was fantastic. Caddies sucked. We had a caddie named Dave. Are friends the next day had a caddie named Tito. Do your research if your going to hire a caddie. Joey the slicer seemed to have had the best experiance with his caddie. Scroll back in this blog and you will findit. Guys, the whole experiance was awesome. Get your butts down to Bethpage and play this course.

175 Bob August 6, 2010 at 1:24 pm

Are carts available to use on the Black, or do you have to use a push cart or caddy?

176 Craig Better August 9, 2010 at 10:36 am

Pull carts or caddies, only, unless you have a physical limitation.

177 Gerald August 9, 2010 at 11:04 am

On two separate occasions, I have tried to register with Bethpage to try to get access to pre-booking a course. I sent a fax with my contact details, fax # where I can be reached, and an email address on both June 29 and July 22. I have not had responses to either request as of today. I am from Alberta, Canada and wonder if this could be the reason. Is there any reasons why I would not have heard from Bethpage State Park as of yet?

Gerald
Sylvan Lake, AB, Canada

178 Craig Better August 9, 2010 at 12:54 pm

Not sure why you haven’t heard back, but people from Canada CAN use the telephone reservation system, too. Call the main number at (516) 249-0700 and press the number to reach an operator who will assist you. Donna in particular is very friendly and helpful.

179 Gerald August 11, 2010 at 10:05 am

Thanks Craig. I called and was given my number over the phone. Not sure what happened, but all’s well that ends well, so far anyway. Hopefully, I can now get a time on the Black on one of the two days I can to play.

180 Matt B August 16, 2010 at 7:47 pm

The caddie program is alot better this year as it has been completely overhauled. I caddie on the black 180 rounds/year from MId April – November which is when the course closes. On very Hot days we run out of caddies & call in caddies from nearby country clubs, which in my opinion dont really know the course as well as the steady caddies in the bethpage caddie system. If you know your tee-time in advance you can contact me at my email address 2-7 days in advance & I will make sure you have quality caddie service that is well suited to provide the ultimate experience while on the course. It is crucial to have a caddie that gives you yardages on the course over certain sand bunkers that you need to carry off the tee to land in the middle of the fairway. For instance, on hole #5 it is crucial to carry the ball 230yds over the far left bunker in order to favor the right side of the fairway, as the hole is designed to penalize you on the left side for your 2nd shot as the whole tree line blocks you from the elevated green. Same with hole #7 & hole #12. There are also many fairway shots that require proper yardage to land in the proper location to set up for a proper approach shot to the green such as hole #4, which your second shot takes you over a 2nd elevated fairway that wraps around the right side of the green which is not visible after your tee shot, same thing with the only par 5 on the back 9 which is 13 and requires you to favor the right side of the fairway to hit a proper 2nd shot on a very narrow fairway which wraps around the green to the left. My contact info is mattbmedia@yahoo.com

181 Bill F. September 3, 2010 at 12:15 am

I played the Black course for the first time early in August. Well worth the wait and price. As a NY State resident I was able to get a tee time a week in advance. the time started about at 3:50 pm. After many attempts and changes I was able to get a 1:10 tee time the day before. I was with a friend, and we ended up going out with two older golfers from Long Island who originally had a 4-some booked. They cancelled the other two spots (which I luckily snagged). The course is fantastic, although some of the fairways has some burnt spots, and the 15th green was horrible. There was a large burnt area that I had to but through. Definitely a beast to walk. The guys we golfed with were great. One had a range finders (so my yardage book is now just a souvenir). They both told stories of being at the course for the US Open in 2009. It was nice to hear stories of how Mickleson hit driver on No. 3 four consecutive days, and hit into the fescue each time (meanwhile, I hit right into the middle of the fairway). I shot 51 on the first 9 from the whites. Definitely a huge victory for me!!! But I was in the fairway off the tee, and am generally good out of the sand. The second 9 caught up to me, and I shot 62. I played way too much out of the fescue and I hit just about every fairway bunker. My 18, I was happy to be done. I will definitely play there again.
Good luck to all trying to get a tee time. Keep trying to modify your tee time.

182 Dave Gibson October 4, 2010 at 4:31 pm

I’ve travelled for many years to the USA for our annual ‘Boys on Tour’. The 4 of us play golf each day for a 10-12 day stay (wherever) but all the golf is pre-booked months before we leave the UK. Can we book (and pay) in advance (more than 2 days!) to play the Black and Red courses in our fixed itinerary (without paying $400 per player)? Thanks

183 Alex G October 11, 2010 at 10:55 pm

On my way to play Black (hopefully) this Wednesday (10/13). I have signed up for the phone reservation system but always get message that it is too early to reserve a tee time for that day, even though it is now within the two day period for out-of-state. I’ll give them a call tomorrow to see what is up with my reservation. If need be I’ll just go out real early on Wed morning (from NJ) and get in line around 4-4:30. I’m a 10.8 index but concerned a little about the length of this course. I’m not a big hitter, but I score through staying mostly straight and short game. Those forced carries sound a bit much for me – we shall see! I’m sure the white will be enough challenge for me!

@Dave Gibson: I haven’t played Bethpage yet but I’ve read a ton and the answer is no; you will not be able to pre-reserve unless you want to pay big bucks with that outside service. Only 7 days in advance for NY state residents and 2 days for out of state. Good luck!

184 Alex G October 13, 2010 at 9:50 pm

Update after playing:
I did call the main number on Tuesday and I found out I was not using the correct ID number. I had given them my SS# but they don’t use them anymore. Instead, they use the first 9 digits of your drivers license (note – in NJ the DL# starts with a letter so they disregard it). Once I got the right number I was able to reserve a tee time for a single for 12:48 today.

Wanting to beat traffic, I decided to go over real early this morning and see if I could get out earlier than that. I left home around 5:20 and pulled into the parking area at about 6:35, just as it was getting light out. I went inside and asked about going out earlier and the gentleman says he has an 8:39 for a single – do I want it. Did I want it??? I jumped all over it! Turns out it was the third group of the day.

As for the round itself, I struggled because I’m not a real long hitter, as predicted. But I managed to break 100 – with a 99! Not great, but I’m happy. The course is exactly as everyone describes. Simply majestic. I loved playing (and walking) it. It was worth the day off work, worth the planning, worth the drive, worth the $135. I will be back for sure!!

185 Matt H February 4, 2011 at 8:30 pm

When does the black open in 2011??

186 JasonB February 10, 2011 at 11:07 am

The Black course will be open sometime around the 10th or 11th of April. Call this number and check in. it will open weather permitting. 99 Quaker Meeting House Road, Farmingdale – (516) 249-0700

187 JasonB February 10, 2011 at 11:18 am

My experiance in the past securing a tee time has always been easier the first 2 months the course is open. i am also interested to know what the caddie situation is on the Black course. My friends have had terrible caddies in the past. Last time I played the Black was before the 09 Open. Course was fantastic and i am sure it will be this year. Good Luck!!!

188 Monte February 15, 2011 at 12:29 am

Jason, the caddy program has been revamped, and the caddies are evaluated every time they go out. A bad rating by the golfer results in a one week suspension. A second poor rating results in dismissal with no chance of return. This has eliminated the terrible caddies. i must admit there is still a good deal of difference in the quality of caddies on the grounds, but for most part, it’s a good group. You pay at the pro shop if you want one, $75 plus gratuity (which is paid at the end of the round), and will be assigned one at that point. I’ve been caddying at the Black for 4 years and consider myself one of the best. If you should want to prearrange caddy service, feel free to contact me here. You won’t be dissappointed. Good luck and have a great season.

189 John V February 16, 2011 at 10:09 pm

Thank you. Some great info here. Hard to get info on getting a t-time for the Black. Only heard the horror stories of sleeping in the parking lot. Will be there July 12-14(Tues. -Thurs.) Will be a single and doesn’t sound as if it will be too difficult as a walk on (I hope). Is one day better than another? I will probably want a caddie as I am running a 15k in Utica that Sunday. Can I try to ask people I am paired with if they also would like a caddie?

190 Monte February 21, 2011 at 9:22 am

The ‘sleepover’ experience isn’t as bad as you think. Some people will park in the sleepover parking lot the day before, and play one of the other courses in the afternoon. Then play the Black the next day. As a single, you shouldn’t have much trouble getting on the course, especially mid-week. Just come early. No real need to try and get a another golfer to take a caddie. One might anyway, and you can still get a caddie to take a ‘single’ bag for the same rate if no one else in your group takes one.

191 Jeff Leyton February 24, 2011 at 4:06 pm

I am playing the Black course in May. I have had bad experiances with caddies in the past. Can someone tell me who the best caddies of the Black course are and how do I get in touch with them…thx

192 T. Fritts February 24, 2011 at 4:18 pm

Getting a caddie on the Black course that is good is very difficult. Complete luck of the draw. Read Joey the slicers comment back in this blog. The caddie he had was really good and I do believe that guy is still there. Good Luck Jeff and let us know what happens. I’m playing in June and I know my friends from are gonna need a caddie.

193 Matt H February 25, 2011 at 9:54 am

I am planning a two day trip to Bethpage in early may. arriving on a monday morning. I plan to play one of the other courses monday afternoon. (hopefully the red) Get a hotel and then arrive at sunrise to try and get out on the Black. I will be a single. Any suggestions about my trip from the “experts” would be great. Monte, I will be taking a caddy email me if you are availble on tuesday 10 may. or 17 may.

Matt

194 Monte March 13, 2011 at 11:41 pm

Sounds like a good plan Matt. I expect to be around during your visit, so just contact me here when the day approaches. I know the course very well, read greens, and will have helpful advice when necessary. Good luck.

195 Spence March 16, 2011 at 11:41 am

Are RV/Motorhomes allowed in the parking lot????

196 Vin B March 16, 2011 at 3:55 pm

Yes Spence. RV’s are allowed. Just check in with the guys in the NY State offices. Located in the clubhouse. They will probably ask you to park it opposite the No.1 parking space depending on the size of the RV or motor home. Good Luck.

197 Tim M March 16, 2011 at 7:44 pm

Are the other courses besides the Black open yet? What are the chances for a single to get out on the Red in the next month during the week? What is the best day? What time would I have to get there? Coming from Connecticut. Thanks.

198 Spence March 21, 2011 at 5:51 pm

Thanks Vin B. We have a 32 foot Sunseeker that we use primarily for Penn State football and other camping trips, but I would love to bring my dad and brother up to Bethpage to try and get on the Black during the week and figured the RV would be a good way to do it comfortably

199 Scott April 11, 2011 at 11:46 am

Anyone know what the quality of the pull cart rentals are there? I am playing this Saturday and would like to rent one.

200 Craig Better April 11, 2011 at 2:55 pm

If my memory serves, they are decent. Nothing fancy, mind you, just the big-wheel type (i.e. sturdy) made for commercial golf operations. Sort of like this one.

201 Scott April 11, 2011 at 5:08 pm

Thanks. I have a cart bag and would rather not lug that thing around. Also, don’t feel like spending an extra $100 for subpar caddies (like I have read). Can’t wait to attempt to concur the beast on Saturday!

202 Jon April 11, 2011 at 5:26 pm

For the people familiar with camping out overnight….If me and 3 others were to go looking to play on a sunday in july what would our chances of getting out be? Or in particular how early would we need to get there the day before? Reading through the comments I saw a good idea to park in the spots then play a different course the day before, so if we do that we would obviously have to get there early afternoon anyway

203 Rick M April 11, 2011 at 10:49 pm

My brother and me are going to try and play the Black on Wednesday June 29th, 2011.
I have registered and received my 9 digit registration number for a non-resident.

Can anyone tell me what the chances of getting a tee time for a twosome are, if we try to make a tee time on Monday June 27th, 2011 at 7:00 PM ?

Thank you

204 Scott April 12, 2011 at 12:34 pm

Rick,

You probably won’t be able to get a tee time any earlier than like 3:30-4:00 calling 2 days before. If you call 1 week before (NYS residents) at 7:02, you cant get a time before 3:00PM. They fill up real fast. I was super lucky this week on my way home from playing the red (Saturday), I called at 7:00 on the dot and got through for next weeks tee time (12:06). Got lucky. Can’t wait to play.

205 Rick M April 13, 2011 at 12:07 pm

Scott,

Thanks for replying.

I’ll throw this out there.

Since you’re a New York reisdent.

Would you be interested to play with us on June 29th ??

My brother and I are both a 6 handicap.

We are from Michigan and Ohio.

Rick

206 Scott April 13, 2011 at 3:36 pm

I doubt I would be able to play on a Wed. Your best bet would be to either do the whole sleeping in the car thing or even if you show up early on Wed morning, there is a small chance you can get a time. If you don’t get on, the red is an OK substitute. Good luck!

207 Steve April 15, 2011 at 4:05 pm

Jon,

As a overnight guy (from Ohio), I have usually played during the week, I have heard guys from the course say the weekends can get busier. Although this past year’s weekday crowds were not as bad as others. Because you need 4 spots, I would think coming in on Saturday at a decent time is a must. Only that first hour of tee times is saved for overnight campers and one time each hour the rest of the day. Get in and you can play 18 or 9 on Saturday, hit balls at range, hang at the club house patio, lawn chairs and coolers in the parking lot. Rent a locker and that gets you use of locker room/showers, etc, this makes the overnight a little better. Bring your own towels and stuff, not supplied.

Good luck

208 Steve April 15, 2011 at 4:11 pm

Rick M,

You can try the phone in…however like Scott said, it will be tough to get something decent. You have to watch those late day rounds on the Black, starting late might push daylight (east coast doesn’t stay as light as long as it does in OH and MI), I have heard of guys not finishing due to darkness. Try the phone in and fall back on the camping process, you don’t want to get all the way there and not play the Black…the Red is ok, not worth sleeping overnight for.

209 Rick L. April 18, 2011 at 2:46 pm

Anyone played the black this year so far? What are the conditions like?

Looking to play this coming Sunday April 24th. As a single out-of-state, what are my odds of finding a spot arriving during mid-day Sunday or should I try the reservation system the night before?

Flying in to NYC Sunday morning so the overnight is not an option.

Thanks in advance.

210 Keval M April 19, 2011 at 5:25 am

My brother and I want to play Bethpage in June. I don’t have space to bring my clubs down from upstate. Can you tell me what clubs they rent at Bethpage and if they are in good condition? I just want to confirm that you can book a 2 ball 7 days in advance as NYS residents? Thank you.

211 Scott April 20, 2011 at 5:11 pm

I played Black on Saturday. Conditions were OK. Only problem was it was down pouring, 40MPH winds and about 35 degrees. Not very pleasant golfing weather.

Keval,

You need to register in the system before making the tee time. Also, you have to call 7PM ON THE DOT the week before you want to play to have any shot at getting a tee time. Like I said in a previous post, if you call at 7:02, all the tee times will be gone.

212 steven coady April 22, 2011 at 12:09 pm

I played the Black last summer midweek as a single, was in the car lineup at about 3am and got a early afternoon tee time, but that was mid summer, so in April? Might be a bit easier as a single with no car to line up, when I got there I was a bit surprised at the lack of cars but was told midweek is the best time to show up.

213 Rickshaw April 26, 2011 at 12:42 am

Looking at doing the campout thing in order to play the Black on Sunday the 8th. Will the car-line be jammed pack by 3 a.m? Hope to play in the morning.

214 Monte May 1, 2011 at 6:04 am

The over night line has not been crowded yet. 3 AM should guarantee you an early tee time. First tee is at 6:55, I believe.

215 John May 5, 2011 at 8:11 pm

Will be looking to play the Black course July 13 or 14. Will be a single. I have read where it will be easy to get on and also read to be there at 3am and may not get out till late afternoon. What would be the best way to get on the course? I am from out of state. Should I register and take that route? Any suggestions would be great.
Thanks
John

216 Steve May 19, 2011 at 5:04 pm

To John, try the registering process..you just don’t know, you might be able to get something. Then, I would talk to the course the week before and see how bad the lot has been filling up. You are going mid week, so that should help and you are a single, easier to fit in. If you hear there is a crowd, you might want to just do the camp out thing….it’s not that bad.

217 Dave May 22, 2011 at 8:26 pm

John – Just went through the whole process for the first time. I’m not a NY resident, so I called this evening (Sunday) right at 7:00 pm for a Tuesday tee time on the Black course as a single. Got through on the first call, and got a time for 10:36 am. It may be a lot busier in July with school out and families on vacation, but the registration/reservation system is definitely worth a try.

218 John V May 23, 2011 at 12:57 pm

Steve and Dave, Thanks for the feedback.

219 Gary G May 26, 2011 at 1:15 pm

I did not see anything on rentals. Looking at renting clubs, does anyone know if they are a decent set?

220 john schick May 31, 2011 at 5:07 pm

FYI, the rough on the Black is super thick right now after our rainy spring. Simply said, it’s pretty brutal, not long, thick & difficult if you miss the fairway by a foot.

221 Monte June 1, 2011 at 10:22 pm

Rental clubs are adequate to play the course, but could use more wedges.

222 John V June 2, 2011 at 8:34 pm

I have regestered over a week ago. Will they responed by E-mail? How do I know if my regestration went through?

223 Steve June 21, 2011 at 10:41 am

Looking for some advice on getting on black course. My son (14) wants to play as a single–looking at Thursday July 14. We are from out of state. He does not have a license or state i.d. so is there another way to try the reservation system if you can’t provide them a license? I assume I can not make the reservation and sub him in when we get there. If we try to walk on and get to the lot at 4:30 AM on a Thursday in July, is he likely to get on as a single? To get the bakery ticket and then be called and then register and pay, will he need an i.d. then? Also, I assume a junior can play (he is a 14 handicap and dying to play there) and that I would be free to walk and carry his bag (I unfortunately am not good enough to do anything else). Any help would be appreciated as we will be coming from a long way to try to make this happen.

224 Don Powell June 24, 2011 at 8:18 am

Please give me an answer to comment #8

225 Derrick Smith June 25, 2011 at 10:42 am

It’s answered in #9.

226 Lefty Jeff July 29, 2011 at 12:13 pm

I’m part of a foursome who all live in the NY/NJ suburbs who are looking to play next Friday. If we can’t get a tee time over the phone (we have one NY resident who is going to attempt that tonight), we’re planning on driving out there Thursday night to get a spot in line. I read through the comments, but just had two questions:

1. Have Fridays been busy this summer? What are our chances if we show up Friday at 3 AM instead of staying overnight that Thursday?
2. If 2 of the 4 of us get there in the afternoon/early evening on Thursday, will they let us line up, or do we need the entire foursome to be there?

Thanks in advance!

227 Aaron August 25, 2011 at 2:43 pm

Hey guys, I was down in 2002 and showed up just after midnight on a weeknight early in September and had no issues getting a parking spot. But, I did not know about the wrist bands getting handed out at 6:45pm the day before and am now wondering if that’s really necessary?

I’m hoping to play on Wednesday August 31st in one of the first hour’s tee times, but don’t really want to get there at 6:45pm for a wristband the night before. Will I be ok to just drive up around midnight again and get a spot? I’m just a single again too. Thanks!

228 steven September 4, 2011 at 12:39 pm

Arron, I went and played last year as a single, it was during the week, I got there at around 3am, wrist bands were handed out at around 4:30 I believe, I had no issues getting a time, I didn’t get an early time but then again there was a big tourney there the next week so alot of guys were there playing practice rounds and took up alot of the morning tee times, should not be an issue as a single.

229 Joe September 11, 2011 at 10:02 pm

To anyone, I understand they are airating the courses in sept. How does the courses hold up to airification? Are they playable?

230 steven September 13, 2011 at 2:31 pm

I just called, airating will not begin on the Black until September 26th, the EXACT day I was planning to drive down!

231 Kimmo October 11, 2011 at 3:24 pm

Planning on a trip to Bethpage. Have one day extra on a business trip to NY.

How is the condition of the golf course at the moment? Will it still be open 23 rd of October?

We are two golfres from Helsinki Finland. One scratch and one 9.8 hcp. Is there any local residentd who could help us to get a teetime?

What are the odds to get on showing up in the morning?

232 david mallett December 31, 2011 at 8:27 pm

I am a non resident – the website states only one reservation per month. Is it possible to make a reservation 2 days in advance, play, and then stay in Bethpage and do a walk up the next day ? I am a single and playing in April.

233 Scott April 1, 2012 at 6:27 pm

Monte — wondering if you’re caddying again this season on the Black course? I’m planning to play it sometime in May-June. I’ve read your comments and you mentioned most caddies prefer double bag rounds…however I will have 3 people in my party. What is your recommendation for that? Thanks!

234 Ryan J. April 11, 2012 at 8:08 pm

I am a NY resident trying to play the Black Course last week of June with my brother (Non-resident). If I call at 7:00 7 days before we want to play what are my chances of getting a tee time? Any tips are welcome. We are trying not to camp out the day before as I am getting married later that week and have things I need to do. Any thoughts? We are either going to play Tue June 25th or Wed June 26th.

235 Monte April 14, 2012 at 10:13 pm

Ryan, the course is very busy that time of year, and the Barclays is coming to the Black this year, so it will be extra busy. You have a 65% chance of getting a tee tine, but don’t expect an early one. You can get married anytime. A tee time on the Black is a rare thing to be treasured. LOL…good luck in both endeavers, Ryan.

236 steven April 22, 2012 at 2:47 pm

Monte, any Idea when the Black is closing down to prepare for the Barcalays?

237 monte April 25, 2012 at 2:50 pm

Usually 2 weeks prior to the event.

238 Chrs Simpson May 1, 2012 at 4:29 pm

I heard holes 1 and 18 for the red are closing for the Barclays at some point. Anyone know when that is?

239 Keith Kmieczak May 2, 2012 at 3:47 pm

We are looking to play the black on wed. 5/23. Can a NY resident put in a reservation for 4 non-NY residents or does one need to be a player? We will probably be sleeping out. I was going to bring a pull behind pop up trailer but the park officals didn’t seem to think that the park police would appreciate that. Do you know if that is allowed. We do have access to a small Ford chasis RV as well and were looking to that as an alternate. Probable arrival time for the sleepover option is 7-8:00. Not sure if we can make it by 6:45. Any comments

240 Cory May 13, 2012 at 6:01 pm

I am a nys resident but don’t have a nys license. Can I use other documents showing my residence, like a cable, rent, or utilities bill?

241 don May 28, 2012 at 8:13 pm

i’m actually heading up this week for a work quota trip and unfortunately my partner who was getting us on Hudson tore his hamstring this morning. now i’m thinking about trying to play the black course as a single out of stater. does it make sense to go through the whole registration process or do you think it’d be easier to get on calling as a single the night before? also is it ridiculous to play from the tips? i’m about a 5 right now and just wondered if it made sense to really experience it (if i can even get on) like the players have. thanks for any advice.

242 Chris June 10, 2012 at 12:51 pm

I want to play Black this Thursday (June 14 2012) as a single. I am not a NY resident as i’m just visiting the area for work. I am wondering if I need to call ahead to let them know I want to play of if I can just show up at 5 am and wait until they can get me out. Also if anyone else out there is interested in playing, I’d be open to playing with others.

243 Bernie June 21, 2012 at 8:26 am

My daughter is a NY resident. She is on the reservation system. Can she secure a tee time for me and a friend, non residents , but not play? Does she need to show up to pay for the two rounds or can they be paid for on line and we bring copies of her info, like credit card, residence card, teachers card???.

244 fiftyFifty July 2, 2012 at 11:37 am

anecdotal evidence, but anway:

i showed up at 4pm on a friday in june and walked on at 4:27pm. my foursome was the last on the course. we lagged a bit, but it was worth it being all alone out there, not waiting on tee boxes or to play second shots. i play a lot at bethpage and there are frequent single and double slots open during the day on all courses, so if you show up on a weekday and are willing to kill some time on the driving range, you can probably get on black without much fuss.

the reservation system can be infuriating. it’s pretty much a solid busy signal for the first hour of available reservations for the following weekend.

if you’re visiting town and are one person with a weekday to kill, just go out. you’ll get on.

245 Charlie July 24, 2012 at 1:45 am

I’m thinking of trying to walk on to Bethpage Black on a Tuesday. I know you are supposed to get there the day before, but I thought it was closed on Mondays? Will officials still be there on Monday evening to hand out the wrist bands? If not, what do I have to do?

Cheers.

246 Glen August 22, 2012 at 5:20 am

I am a non (NY) resident wanting to play the Black as a single on the 13th or 14th (weekend) of October. Chances of a single walking-on, on a weekend late in the season? After reading all the comments I am guessing that the reservation system is worthless for someone in my situation. Any suggestions from a local resident/caddie would be greatly appreciated.

247 Mike September 1, 2012 at 12:03 pm

A week ago I faxed my non-state resident registration information to Bethpage. Is a week too soon to expect to be contacted with my number? Also, the instruction guide says registrants will be contacted with their number, though, some from their own personal experiences, have said only after you call them yourself will you receive your number. Are you supposed to call Bethpage’s Pro Shop or New York State Parks Department?

248 Jack September 5, 2012 at 11:18 pm

A NOTE FOR SINGLES. Any weekday you can walk on without a problem. I have showed up about 8:30 AM, go to a pretty empty line for Black and have gotten to tee off most times between 12:30 PM and 3:00 PM which is fantastic in the summer. I have only done this 4 times over the last 7 years during visits to see family on Long Island, but I have yet to be shut out.

My only beef is, to play The Black Course you should have to show verification of your GHIN/USGA handicap and if you are over a 12, go to one of the other 4 colored courses. As a single digit handicap, getting behind hackers shooting in the 100′s when you travel such a long way to play Black just destroys your day.

249 Jeff September 29, 2012 at 9:41 pm

I am registered in the system and checked tee times last week and they were too late for me. This week I call and after I confirm my id# the system just hangs up. Any clues as to why?

250 Harry October 5, 2012 at 2:39 pm

I shoot high 90′s but i don’t believe i would hold anybody back. is it really a pain playing w/ a double digit player?

251 Jonathan October 9, 2012 at 9:40 pm

Hi, i am visiting new york with my family from 18th to 21st October and am keen to play bethpage black if possible, but can’t sleep over from the afternoon before and play golf the next day if i want to stay married.

Would any residents be interested in a game? In return i can arrange `playing with members rate` at some of the best courses in Scotland and northern Ireland.

Also how do you get to bethpage from Manhattan?

Drop me a line if interested.

252 Craig Better October 10, 2012 at 10:48 am

Here’s how to get to Bethpage from Manhattan http://www.golfvacationinsider.com/?p=1842

253 Fumiko December 7, 2012 at 10:46 pm

My parents want to golf at Black course in May, 2013. They are from Japan and when I called pro shop, they advised me to register their passports and use reservation system (2 days in advance). They need to book international flights and hotel in NY which I will do but is there any better way to secure their tee time? It is way out of state, 8000 miles away and I really want them to play at Black and have a great time. I can camp night before but my parents must be with me in the car? Or I camp by myself and once I get tee time, they can come by taxi? I am out-of state resident and don’t golf, I will be their interpreter.

254 Nolan H January 27, 2013 at 12:23 pm

Coming down from Canada and looking to play the Black course this summer. Out of July, August what is the best time to try and get on? I figured midweek would be less busy. In 2012 we went to the Barclays at the Black and stayed at the Plainview-Long Island Holiday Inn. Nice place, had a pool and about 10-15 minutes from the course. Say we were to show up around 2 pm at Bethpage to get in line on a Wednesday (wanting to play Thursday) to get the wristband around 6:45 pm. Once we have that, I know that the car needs to stay in the same spot to remain in line. Does anyone need to stay in the car? If not is it a good idea to get a cab or transportation back to the hotel and get some decent sleep? The next morning comes early, likely leaving the hotel at 3 am with more than a few Red Bulls in me. Has anyone ever got a wristband and they went back to a hotel to sleep? Is it a good idea or does someone need to stay in the car? I figured this would be our best bet at getting on as the reservation system seems tough to crack on a 2 day booking schedule for out of state golfers. Thanks!

255 bob February 5, 2013 at 11:03 am

If you don’t mind playing in the afternoons, you can purchase a tee time in the morning, go back home, to your hotel, the beach, or to work, and return later in the day to play.

Most tee times after 3:00PM are available and twilight starts at 4:00PM.
During the summer, you can finish 18 if you are in one of the first 4 groups at Twilight.

256 Monte April 18, 2013 at 3:54 pm

Nolan, Someone does have to stay in the car the entire evening. Generally guys bring some camping gear, grill, beer, etc, and make a night of it. Some come a day early and play another course, (Red, Green) the day before. a ranger will answer your questions. P.S. There are restrooms open 24/7.

257 John Wacker May 11, 2013 at 2:18 am

Coming from Hawaii. Want to play June 12th as a single. Can I show up at the crack of dawn and play that day? In not when do I need to show up the night before. I’m on a tight budget so if I have to come the night before is there a cheap place to crash of do I find a place under a tree. Bringing pineapples and Aloha.

258 Mike May 17, 2013 at 8:59 pm

When I was single, I always made sure to bring my mom to a Mother’s Day breakfast and walk on to the Black on Mother’s Day anytime between 1 and 3 pm. That was between 2003-2005 which is a while ago but if you live close, you’ve got a shot!
Good luck!
mike

259 Drew August 26, 2013 at 12:51 pm

I’m a NY resident and I’m planning to play black with a buddy of mine from Florida. Anyone think it’s possible for me to pay NY resident rates for both rounds? Or are they crazy about checking IDs for both players?

260 Chris January 16, 2014 at 3:03 pm

Can a twosome book tee times…or show up the night before as a twosome?difficult to get two others to make commitment .

261 Bob ct June 1, 2014 at 1:29 pm

Sounds like the staff at berth page would have made good dmv employees or nazis

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